@article{fantasticpretrainingoptimizersandwhereto,
  title = {Fantastic Pretraining Optimizers and Where to Find Them},
  author = {Kaiyue Wen and David Hall and Tengyu Ma and Percy Liang},
  year = {2025},
  eprint = {2509.02046},
  archivePrefix = {arXiv},
  url = {https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.02046},
}